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                       KIDCLUB IRC Log

                  Saturday October 16, 1993

 

                Topic:  UNICEF:  "Keep Us safe"

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Participants:

 

Patti Weeg        From the University of Maryland with

                  teachers in an all day seminar on telecom

 

Mike Burleigh     London, United Kingdom

                  Castelnau Youth Club - Luke, Dawn, Louise A., Dennis

                  Ben - visiting from Cambridge

 

Bill Parks        London, United Kingdom - visiting Mike and Castelnau

 

Jamie Wilkerson   Rockhill, South Carolina

                  Todd - student

 

Peter Daly        Stevenage, England

                  Jamie, Vicky - students

 

Mikael Sundholm   Vasa, Finland

                  Raine and Kim - students

 

Eleanor Ennis     Salisbury, Maryland

                  Jenny, Jennifer, Chrissy - students

 

Oscar Becerra     Lima, Peru

                  Jose-Angel - his son

 

Bob Sturtz        Michigan

Eric Carlson      Derwood, Maryland - student

Mike Brunetto     Maryland - student

Matt              Washington, D.C. - student

 

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IRC log started Sat Oct 16 12:52

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<Patti> hello, Mike!

<mikeb> Hi Patti

<Patti> who is with you, Mike?

<Greenfolk> Hello Patti it's Jamie and i'm 13

<mikeb> the Castelnau people have just arrived

<mikeb> we also have ben Walters

<Patti> hi Castelnau...did you get our video yet?

<mikeb> and Bill Parks has come all the way down from the north east of

england by train

<mikeb> unfortunately the UNICEF Education director has not been able to

come...she has a severe cold

<Patti> ohh...sorry to hear that.  Is Bill there?

<mikeb> OK folks we are going off line for a few minutes to change settings

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<Greenfolk> Hello Mike and Bill i'm gLad i'm typing because i've lost my voice

<mikeb> N

<mikeb> Bill is here

<Patti> hello Jamie

<A_JamieW> Greetings from South Carolina!

<mikeb> who is Greenfolk?

<Patti> hi Bill! ;-)

<mikeb> Hi Janmie

<Greenfolk> Me !!! peted

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<Greenfolk> Hello Jennifer

*** Signoff: mikeb (Leaving)

<A_JamieW> Hello Jennifer

<A_JamieW> Pi, how is everything going today?

<Patti> how old are you Jennifer?

<Patti> Fine, Jamie....

<Patti> tell our people where you are...

<A_JamieW> Jamie is in Rock Hill, South Carolina on a rainy afternoon.  :-(

<Greenfolk> Hi i'm in Stevenage which is 30 miles north of lonondon in the UK

<A_JamieW> Greenfolk...is this Peter Daly?

<Greenfolk> Yep

<A_JamieW> How wonderful!

<jennifer> cYg

<Patti> hi Peter!

<Patti> Thanks for all your info on the stars, Peter.  Great stuff! ;-)

<Greenfolk> HimPatti hope u r well

<A_JamieW> Congratulations on your new and distinctive honor that we read

about the other day!  We were all so proud of you!

<Patti> we have 19 people here in the lab today

<Greenfolk> Hope we see some meteors ths time

<jennifer> Hi I'm here with jennifer and Chrissy

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<A_JamieW> We saw some on the way to the launch site in August...

<A_JamieW> Hello Oscar!

<Patti> hello Oscar!!! hugs!!

<Patti> great to see you

<OscarB> hello all I am here with Jose-Angel

<Patti> hi Jose-Angel...we miss your messages

<A_JamieW> I am sorry we lost you yesterday afternoon, Oscar.  I waited for a

while before I finally had to leave.

<A_JamieW> Hello Jose-Angel!

<OscarB> I was sorry too but the link was not very reliable at that time.

Thanks for your help

<Greenfolk> ye jaime the invite came out the blue .. I'm very excited  about

it but not quite as much as my wife teresa

<A_JamieW> Did the people from IBM get to at least see part of the chat,

Oscar?

<OscarB> Who are you Greenfolk?

<jennifer> how old are you jose

<Greenfolk> Hello and Welcome Oscar

<Patti> tell us about your invitation, Peter

<OscarB> I am 7, hello. Jose-Angel

<A_JamieW> And Peter...you did deserve the honor!  But I am also happy that

your wife was so excited as well.  We certainly were excited for you...

<Greenfolk> Greenfolk are the Kids I have waiting here from PeteD

<OscarB> So that means England?

<Patti> how many kids are with you, Peter?

<A_JamieW> What are the ages of the kids at Greenfolk?

<Greenfolk> Jaime standby by for more Arctic crossings in Februsry

<OscarB> Will they repeat the crossing next year?

<Patti> keep us posted, Peter

<Greenfolk> Hi its Greenfolk we are 13 and 11

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<Patti> what are your names, Greenfolk?

<A_JamieW> Grand...I am ready and eager to get started..I will begin making

plans for that now...Be sure to include us, please!

<Raine> hg

<Kim> hello

<Greenfolk> Yes i'll send you details in a couple of days jaime

<OscarB> How many of you Greefolks? Boys and Girls? How many of each?

<Patti> hello Raine and Kim!  Goos to see you again

<jennifer> Were in Salisbury MD Wer are jenn L. Jenny w. and Chrissy.

<Raine> Hi everbody i amback

<Greenfolk> Jamie and Vicky

<Patti> hello Salisbury!!!!  Hugs!

<OscarB> HI Raine and Kim

<A_JamieW> Peter, did you realize that the last shuttle carried and deployed a

satellite to aid in the communications from the Antarctic area?

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<Kim> i'm from finland

*** Signoff: OscarB (Bad link?)

<Raine> Hi mikael

<Greenfolk> No i didn't know that

<A_JamieW> Hello again Mikael.

<Patti> hello Mikael!

<A_Mikael> Hello Jamie & Patti!

<Patti> glad to see you again, Mikae;

<A_Mikael> Glad to see you too =)

<Patti> Thanks for joining us again

<Raine> Hello Jamie and Patti

<Kim> Mikael is in the same room as me

<jennifer> How old are you Mikael?

<A_JamieW> It is so good to see so many friends... Mikael, should we finish

off the pecan pie this afternoon?  I believe Oscar left us a couple of pieces.

<Greenfolk> Hi jamie is now becoming james (greenfolk)

<A_Mikael> Can we save the pie for later =)

<A_JamieW> Hello Jmaes

<A_JamieW> oops...James

*** Signoff: Greenfolk (Bad link?)

<A_JamieW> How about for after dinner?

<Kim> hello jamie,patti and jennifer

<Raine> msg kim you are a ??????????

<A_JamieW> Hello Kim...

<Patti> we are watching....

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*** kids.ccit.duq.edu : Saturday October 16 1993 -- 13:07 -05:00

<Patti> Mike, did you fall off the keyboard? ;-)

<A_JamieW> Hello again, Mike.

<A_Mikael> Hello Mike!

<Kim> hello mike

<Patti> Hello, Castelnau!

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<Patti> we sent you a video.

<Greenfolk> We was dumped

<MikeB> we had/have a slight problem here

<Greenfolk> what

<Patti> are you ok, Mike?

<MikeB> have you started the discussion?

<A_JamieW> Patti, does the format of your video work for the people in London?

<MikeB> Yep we seem to be ok now

<Patti> Welll..Jamie...we have to have it converted to PAL format

<MikeB> did you get my line which said the

<A_JamieW> That was what I suspected.

<MikeB> the UNICEF director couldn't come

<Patti> MIke,  we didn't see the last part of your line....  all D's and HH's

<A_JamieW> Mike B., I cannot read the last part either.

<MikeB> OK folks you only get short lines from us tonight

<Greenfolk> why cann't the UNICEF director come ??

<Patti> that's ok, Mike...whatis the weather in London?

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<MikeB> that way we can forget the technical problem

<A_JamieW> Hello Eric.

<Eric> how d!

<Patti> hi Eric

<Eric> :)

<Raine> HI ERIK

<A_Mikael> Hello Eric!

<Greenfolk> Hello eric

<Patti> Is Luke there?

<MikeB> Hello Erik

<Kim> hello Eric

<Patti> Dawn, are you there?

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<Eric> yes

<MikeB> Hello Peru

<Greenfolk> Hello Oscar

<A_JamieW> Good to have you back, Oscar...

<Kim> Hello oscarb

<A_Mikael> Hello Oscar!

<Eric> Hello KIDCLUB world..

<Eric> :)

<MikeB> Oscar here is your friedn Louise Allcock

<OscarB> I'm back, my link is not very reliable the host ended my session

<Patti> My crowd is confused by all these lines ;-)

<jennifer> erik were are you

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<Eric> I am in the merry land :)

*** Luoise is now known as louiseA

<Greenfolk> Hello louiseA

<A_JamieW> I am going back to my network to see if one of my kids has a way to

join us in this.  I sent him a message and hope he will have read it by

now...Back in a few minutes...

<Eric> Maryland, USA

<OscarB> So which places do we have right now?

<louiseA> hi oscar,thankyou fot your replies!

<jennifer> We aare in Maryland, Where is Merry Land?

<Eric> Derwood, MD, USA

<Patti> We are in Maryland...College Park

<A_JamieW> South Carolina...

*** Signoff: A_JamieW (Leaving)

<Greenfolk> Stevenage UK

<Kim> finlad (vasa)

<Greenfolk> Mike where is Bill

<Raine>  jhklr

<OscarB> Where is Stevenage (refer to London, please)?

<Greenfolk> About 30 miles north

<jennifer> eric have you ever been to ocean city/

<louiseA> Bill is in London with Kidclub

<Eric> yes

<OscarB> I'm in Lima, Peru

<Raine>  Vaasa (finland europe)(in the same room as kim and mikael

*** Signoff: OscarB (Bad link?)

<Eric> wow.. we got a lot of countries respresented here today..

<Greenfolk> Whats thw weather like in Peru its dreary and cold here

<A_Mikael> Oscar got a bad link...

<Eric> here it is Fall (Autumn) leves falling off the tresa and it's cool

outside

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<Greenfolk> hello eliie

<Raine> Hi ellie

<Greenfolk> sorry ellie

<louiseA> I Are you with anyone Mikeal?

<ellie> No, Patti, I haven't seen any of them but they are welcome if they

shwo up.

*** ellie is now known as Jennifer

<Kim> in finland the weather it's could but not so bad

<louiseA> HERE WE HAVE Dawn,Louise Luke and Dennis

<Greenfolk> hi this is vicky with peterd

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<MB> Hello,

<louiseA> and Will Parks and Ben from Unicef

<Greenfolk> hello mb

<Eric> hi michael

<Kim> hello mb

<Jennifer> In Saalsisbury it's pretty warm out and it's fall

<Raine>  HI MB LONG TIME NO SEEN

<A_Mikael> louiseA: Kim and Raine are here.

<MB> lots of people on today!

<A_Mikael> Hello Michael!

<Raine> BE BACK IN 45 SEC

<louiseA> Sorry,Ben has been writing the travel forum logs fron Cambridge

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<MB> So what is today's topic?

<Patti> Bill, tell my people about your UNICEF projects here...

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<Greenfolk> hello bobs

<Jennifer> Do you celebrate Halloween?

<Raine> I am back

<Eric> that was qucik

<Eric> quick

<Greenfolk> We celebrate Halloween by dressing up and harrissing the neibours

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<Raine> HI BOBS

<Patti> Mikael, do you celebrate Halloween?

<BobS> hiraine!

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<Greenfolk> hi bobs

<Patti> hi Bob...is rachel there?

<Kim> hello bobs

<A_Mikael> No, we don't (unfortunately)

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<BobS> hi Kim

<Greenfolk> hi mike

<Patti> hi Bill!

<Jennifer> hey kim ,do you like mb.

<Bill> Heloo [DHi Everyone it's Bill

<BobS> I'm going to call her now...in a few minutes, I hope.  I'm at school

<A_Mikael> Hello Bill!

<Patti> Great to see you

<Raine> mgs mike why did you change your name

<Mike> Hi Bill

<Greenfolk> hi bill

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<Raine> HELLO BILL

<Eric> Mike is better than MB.

<A_JamieW> Back again...I think I will have one of my past group of kids

joining us in a moment.

<Patti> Bill, tell us about your UNICEF projects here...for my people

<Eric> Oscar is bak

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<Bill> Did everyone receive the information about Child Labouer and neglect

etc.?

<Raine> Hi Oscar Again

<A_JamieW> I have given him the directions over the telephone...so please look

for Todd M.

<Greenfolk> welcome back oscar

<Mike> Not me!

<Mike> Hi Oscar

<OscarB> HI the server keeps forcing me out of the chat is that normal?

<A_JamieW> Hi Bill, I have read part of the information...

<Eric> I would hope not

<Eric> :)

<OscarB> Hi Mike, How is London today?

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* BobS is calling Rachel...will try to walk her through the connect...

<MikeB> we are going to leave and come back again to reset our system

<OscarB> It's a nice spring noon here in Lima, this was my last message before

being forced, did you get it?

<Eric> we got 2 Mike Bs. :)

*** Signoff: MikeB (Leaving)

<OscarB> Is Mike Mike Burleigh?

<Eric> no..

<Patti> It's been great, folks but we must move on...have a good chat.

<Mike> no.....Mike Brunetto

<Eric> a friend of mine from my skule

*** Signoff: OscarB (Bad link?)

<Jennifer> eric 2l~

<Eric> again!

<Patti> byee....

<A_JamieW> Good bye Patti...so good to see you again!

<A_Mikael> Thank you Patti! Bye!

<Kim> bye patti

<Patti> Thanks for coming, Jamie

<Eric> cya

<Mike> Me gota leave at 14:00

<Raine> Bye patti

<Mike> Bye Patti

<A_JamieW> Finally made it on Sat.

<Mike> Can we start the meeting.

<Eric> todd is on #kidlink

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<Eric> I';ll get him

<Kim> yee sure

<Mike> ok

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<A_JamieW> Please  /join #kidlink

<A_JamieW> Hi Todd..doing great

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<Eric> he should be coming

<Raine> Hi Eric again

<A_JamieW> Eric, how is he?

<BobS> well, we'll see what happens.

<Kim> hello eric (again)

<Eric> I dunno.. he doesn't talk :) I didn't give him a chance :)

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<A_JamieW> This will be the first time he has ever done this...

<BobS> where is Erci calling from?

<BobS> Erci=Eric

<Mike> Derwood, Maryland

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<BobS> oh, ok...with Patti's group.

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<Mike> Same as me...different terminals

<Eric> Todd is idle.. 3 mins straight

<BobS> hi Eric...

<Greenfolk> hi Eric

<BobS> greenfolk: where r u from?

<Eric> I'll be back and forth.. we need to wake him up. :)

<Greenfolk> Venus

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<Mike> Really?

<Greenfolk> Actually Stevenage 30 miles north ofLondon

<BobS> ah... (BobS looks over Greenfolk VERY carefully...steps back a bit)

<BobS> ok...

<Greenfolk> It comes of looking at the atrs to much

<Greenfolk> my dyslexia agn

<Jennifer> (_Bn

<Mike> HUH???

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<BobS> hi Oscar!

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<Jennifer> we  aare having a lot of trouble with this line today

<ToddM> Jamie, are you there??? This is tim

<BobS> brb....

<Greenfolk>  Oscar this is peted on the keys here for the moment

<Kim> HELLO TODD

<BobS> ]/quit

<OscarB> it takes me 15 minutes to link the channel for one or two is that

normal?

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<Greenfolk> Depnds on your host sytem oscar

<Jennifer> Do we have a topic for today?

<Eric> <yawn>

<Eric> :)

<ToddM> Hi I had a hard time getting in but I'm here now.

<Greenfolk> Anybody know what is up with Mike burleigh?

<Eric> dunno

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<OscarB> I am having trouble with the terminal type I gave will be back

*** Signoff: OscarB (Leaving)

<A_JamieW> Has Todd joined this channel?

<Eric> yes

<Mike> Yeh

<Greenfolk> Yes

<ToddM> yes I'm here

<A_JamieW> Todd are you there?

<ToddM> yes

<Jennifer> do you celebrate easter/

<Mike> CAN WE PLEASE START THE MEETING!!!!!!!!!!!!

<A_JamieW> Great...welcome to Kidclub!  You are the first student from Rock

Hill to take part in this.

<Eric> hehehh

<Kim> Here in finland we do

<ToddM> I had a hard time gettingin jaime

<A_JamieW> Okay...Todd they are now discussing holidays...Easter...as do we

celebrate it...you may do the talking for us..I will watch.

<Greenfolk> Jamie we have 3 Brits wlking across the North pole fro Siberia to

canada next year ... abt middle of februry 'till early June

<Mike> So what is today's TOPIC?

<Eric> sheesh, what next? :)

<ToddM> here we put candy in easter baskets and the parents say that an easter

bunny brought it

<Greenfolk> Water

<Raine> child labour

<Mike> make up  you minds!

<A_JamieW> Peter, I have already begun planning and collecting material for a

unit on Arctic travels...this will be great...

<Greenfolk> This is inaid if Save the Children this time

<A_Mikael> teh topic is KEEP US SAFE. We have been discussing Child Labour

here in Finland.

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<A_JamieW> Okay, time to make some decisions here about a topic...

<ToddM> hey oscarb

<Eric> I think I need electric shock therapy :)

<Eric> <snore>

<A_JamieW> Keep Us Safe sounds good!

<Eric> :)

<A_Mikael> Did you read our mail to KIDPROJ?

<OscarB> Hi again, my system says it's the remote host who ends the session.

<Eric> I delete mail with reading it a lot :)

<OscarB> Any topic for today?

<A_Mikael> Did I miss this, wont Will be here today?

<Mike> I didn't get any mail....

<A_JamieW> Todd, you have already gotten the hang of this pretty well. Todd

will not have seen all the material about the Child Labour because he is not

currently in my class.  However, we willnow officially begin to send him some

of the mail so he can participate.

<A_Mikael> I sent it to KIDPROJ..

<Raine> Raine is now known as Raine

<Eric> hey .. I gotta call back..  real soon so be prepareed to part :)

<OscarB> Is Raine a boy or a girl name?

<Raine>  SORRY RaineA

<Kim> girl

<OscarB> Thanks, how many names do Finish people usually have?

<Kim> just kidding

<Jennifer> do you feel safe whereyou live/

<A_JamieW> Good question for everyone, Jennifer.

<Kim> yes (why do you wonder)

<OscarB> WE are beginning to feel safe but not too much.

<Eric> brb

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<Raine> HI MIKE

<Greenfolk> Jaime in Mike and Bils absence could you take over as chair??

<A_JamieW> Oscar, has the situation been better in Peru?  I have not seen much

lately.

<Jennifer> hey oscar why didnt you feel safe

<A_JamieW> I am trying to get us into Jennifer's discussion idea about feeling

safe where you live.

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<OscarB> So Raine is a boy and Kim was kidding, Am I OK? Is Kim a boy?

<Greenfolk> We were wondering were you had got to Mike Safety may be a good

topic

<ToddM> I've got to go up to Charlotte NC thanks for letting me in on this

chat.

<Luke> Hi everybody

<Kim> yes

<Greenfolk> Hi Luke

<Raine>  NO KIM IS A GIRL NAME

<OscarB> yes the situation is better but it's still not safe to be out late

evening

<Raine> no

<A_JamieW> Todd, we will talk later today or tomorrow and I will explain

further...

<Kim> THEN RAINE IS A T-REX

<ToddM> Ok talk to you later

<A_JamieW> To leave you must type the backslash and exit.

<OscarB> you can be robbed. Crooks catch youngsters and take their sneakers

<Raine> No I am not a T-REX

*** Signoff: ToddM (Bad link?)

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<A_JamieW> Be right back...

<Luke> hi eric

*** Signoff: A_JamieW (Leaving)

<Kim> HELLO ERIC

<Mike> Hi eric

<Luke> what are ewe talking about today

<Raine> Here we feel very safe

<OscarB> Hi Luke

<Jennifer> i feel safe but sometimes i get alittle scared

<A_Mikael> Why do you get scared?

<Jennifer> Where are you , Raine?

<Raine> HERE

<Eric> he

<OscarB> Where is here?

<Jennifer> Rioght Raine

<Kim> raine is in vasa

<OscarB> Is Vasa a big city?

<Luke> ?

<Kim> no no no no

<Mike> I might as well leave now.....doesn't look like we'll get much done

before 14:00

<Kim> never in my life

<Raine>  NO NO NO nO nO

<A_Mikael> We have been discussing child labour with Kim and Raine... what

sort of jobs do you do at home?

<OscarB> How many people live in Vasa?

<Kim> 500000

*** Signoff: OscarB (Bad link?)

<Greenfolk> Mike it's now coming up to 1800 GMT

<Jennifer> iget scared because you cant trust evreyone you meet

<Mike> My time....

<Luke> is the tpoic crime?

*** A_Mikael has changed the topic on channel #KIDCLUB to Child labour

<Mike> I still have 15 min.

<A_Mikael> Could we agree to start with discussing Child Labour?

<Mike> Yes

<Kim> yeeee

<Raine>  YES WE COULD A-MIKAEL

<Jennifer> I have to do different chores around the house like cleaning my

room , helping get dinner ready etc.

<Mike> same with me

<A_Mikael> Do you get paid for the job?

<Mike> allowance

<Jennifer> Yes

<Raine> yES

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<Kim> i do the same things Jennifer said

<Luke> I think most people have to help with house work

<AJamieW> How goes the discussion about child labour?

<Mike> Part of living in the house my parents say

<A_Mikael> Ww have just started..

<Jennifer> Ip ~

<AJamieW> What do you define as Housework?

<Luke> which Article in the U.N. cvonvetion refers to child labour

<A_Mikael> Do you think it is right that you get paid for "house work"?

<Luke> ?

<Kim> yes

<Raine> no

<Mike> yes

<Raine> yes

<Jennifer> How much do you et paid?

<Mike> 4 dollars

<Mike> a week

<Kim> 10 us dollars =50 fim mark

<Jennifer> Mike how old are you?

<Mike> plus extra for extra work I do...mowing the lawn, cleaning litter

boxes..etc.

<Greenfolk> hi my name  Vicky i have been waiting for ages and my mums about

to come and get me .I really must go now BYE

<Mike> 13 year

<Kim> fim=fin

<Luke> who knows which Article in the U.N. convention refers to child labour??

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<Mike> not me!

<Kim> 32

<Luke> thats right

<A_Mikael> Do you work only for the money or are there any advantages with

work?

<Raine> no

<Kim> no

<A_Mikael> I mean other advantages...

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<OscarB> Here Jose Angel: I prepare lemonade, water the garden and set the

table

<Mike> advantages.....I get to sleep in the house and eat food

<Luke> the house gets clean

<Jennifer> yea mike

<A_Mikael> Can work be fun?

<Raine> I agree with luke

<Kim> sometimes

<Luke> that depends on what kind of wotk it is

<Jennifer> yes

<OscarB> I hate school work. Jose Angel

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<Raine> HI JAMIE

<Raine> o

<Jennifer> i do to christy

<Mike> gota go mow the lawn now.....bye, probaly won't get bak before the

meeting ends.

<A_JamieW> I have really had some strange things happening...

<OscarB> I will have to leave soon it's lunch time and Jose-Angel is hungry

*** Signoff: Mike (Leaving)

<A_Mikael> Will write that 100 biljon children in the world are child workers.

What do you think are the reasons children have to work?

<A_JamieW> I have been monitoring but could not reply

<A_JamieW> Good bye to Mike and Oscar.

<OscarB> Bye Jamie see you soon

<A_JamieW> Oscar, I am so thrilled to be able to chat with you now.

<Luke> bye oscar

<OscarB> There are hundreds of reasons. They are too poor, they have no

parents

<A_JamieW> Mikael, when you define 100 billion children as child workers, how

specific is that term, workers?

<OscarB> They are molested by their families and leave to live on their own

<Jennifer>  ~/nick

<OscarB> Bad people use them to make money, etc, etc,

<A_Mikael> That have to work for their living.

<A_JamieW> I wonder if the students discussing working at housework within the

home are talking about the same kinds of work that you are describing...Oscar

and Mikael.

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<Luke> there are a 100 million, not 100 billion

<OscarB> Well Raine and Kim I am leaving not being sure if you are boys or

girls...

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<OscarB> HI Bob

<A_JamieW> Hi Bob...

<Raine> Boyes

<A_Mikael> What kind of work do you think the children are doing that have to

work all day?

<BobS> hi there (still trying to get Rachel connected)

<a-eleanor> Oscar, I ama happpy to be talking to ypu too, Hope to see you next

week

<Luke> who *

<OscarB> I think we have to topics. Work as a way to learn responsibility

(good)

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<OscarB> and work as abuse because of lack of protection (bad)

<A_JamieW> That is what I must agree with, Oscar...

<A_Mikael> Yes...

<A_JamieW> And a point I think must be made here.

<Jennifer> we are going to leave now,goodbye.

<Luke> but what is the difference between employment and exploitation??

<OscarB> Bye Jennifer

<A_Mikael> Good question!

<A_JamieW> When a student is helping mother by washing dishes for $4.00...that

is different

<A_JamieW> from the the student who must work or starve.

<Eric> cya

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<A_JamieW> Bye Eric

<Kim> bye eric

<OscarB> I am not sure I agree with paying for dishwashing.

<Raine> bye eric

<Jennifer> this is christy signing off,goodbye

<A_JamieW> Luke, I think that is a very valid question for discussion.

<A_JamieW> Good bye Christy

<A_Mikael> What do we mean with exploitation?

<Luke> actually, its Wills question

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<Kim> BYE JENNIFER

<Raine> bye jennifer

<A_JamieW> Where do you draw the line between exploitation and employment or

even to the idea of helping around the home?

<OscarB> For kids I would mean explotation is any work that's not leading the

kids

<Luke> exploitation is where your are being taken advantage of......

<A_JamieW> Exploitation... taking advantage of one's ability to do something.

<Luke> maybe because of your age...

<OscarB> to a better quality of life they find meaningful while commiting to

the work

<A_JamieW> Or because of your inability to do any better.

<Luke> where as empoloyment is where you work for your own benefit...

<Luke> as well as your employers

<A_JamieW> Or as a mutual benefit...

<A_Mikael> Why do you think children are exploited?

<Raine> KIM says that our computers are flying apes!!!!!!!!

<OscarB> I don't know how to signoff all the previous times I was forced out

<A_JamieW> Example... I have a daughter (age 6).  Am I exploiting her,

employing her, or just seeking some help in a responsible manner when I ask

her to pick up toys and help put groceries away.

<Luke> children are exploited as they don't generally have the strenght to

resist an abult...

<A_JamieW> Oscar...type backslas exit

<OscarB> Jamie: You are teaching her that she is part of a family and each

member has

<Luke> and when the adult want s to benefit from the child's work

<A_JamieW> But who benefits from this type of "labour"?

<A_Mikael> yes... there is a difference between "helping" and "working"...

<OscarB> his/her share of responsibility in the family success.

<Luke> the adult that is exploiting the child

<Raine> just seeking some help jamie

<A_JamieW> Great points from both Mikael and Oscar.

<A_JamieW> Oscar, I suspect you do not really want to leave this channel, do

you? <grin>

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<OscarB> Just before I leave. Are the Castlenau kids here today?

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<BobS> ah, well.

<A_JamieW> Hi BobS.

<Luke> yes here we are!!

<Kim> hello BobS

<BobS> We tried.

<BobS> Hi Kim...

<Luke> the kids of Castelnau?!!!

<Luke> hi bob

<Raine> moooka

<BobS> hi Luke...how siis the UK today?

<A_JamieW> My point is that some of the students are talking about helping

about the house...and I think Mikael and his group are looking at a more

serious problem...worldwide.  Am I correct in that, Mikael?

<Luke> coldd, but dty

<Luke> sorry

<Luke> cold but dry

<Luke> :^)

<BobS> In developing countries, mostly, I would think.

<A_Mikael> Yes... I was writing that Will said that there are over 100 biljon

children at work...

<BobS> Luke:cool, abit damp here in N. Michigan

<A_JamieW> That would be our suspicion, Bob.

<BobS> What countries have child labor laws?

<A_JamieW> But sometimes we have incidents that appear in local media coverage

of this type and what should be done?

<Kim> finland

<Raine> Finland

<Luke> Mikael.... its 100 million, not 100 billion kid s iare working under

unfair conditions

<A_Mikael> ok. sorry.

<Luke> bob..every country in some way has children who's life is affected by

laboutr

<A_JamieW> A local church came under scrutiny for allowing kids to help

physically build a part of the church as part of their service to the church.

Some people said this was a violation of child labor laws, which we do have in

the United States.

<A_JamieW> Opinions?

<Luke> how many countriees enforce Article 32

<Luke> ???

<BobS> Voluntary help I would think would be another matter

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<A_Mikael> Could it be that people are not aware of the child labour laws...?

<A_JamieW> However, the topic heated somewhat with the idea that the children

were soing it because their parents expected them, as did the church, to do

this.

<Ben> We learn about them in school...

<Raine> none

<BobS> yes....

<Ben> \9\bill\0 good question, \mikael

<BobS> hmmmm....I have no idea how the law would apply there..

<A_JamieW> Some very difficult areas to determine when defining a law for all

to accept and support.

<Ben> \whilst \i and \luke are here, the rest of the |\\\\\\\

<Ben> sorry.. whilst I and Luke are here, the rest of the Casrtlenau kids

<Raine> I think that article number 11 has some god points

<Ben> are writing email messages to kidproj about Child Labour

* BobS needs to see the articles.

<Ben> , armed conflict, refugees, abuse and neglect.//

<Raine> I think

<Raine> sorry

<A_JamieW> Those are crtainly the groups that we see most vividly as the ones

needing direction....

<Raine> every child has the right to live and to have food and education and

clothing

<A_JamieW> And are the ones that we should try to focus on suggestions for

support and assistance.

<Ben> OK folks let's talk about war...

<Ben> \what is the purpose of war?

<Raine> nothing

<Raine> i think

<Ben> ok.. next

<Ben> How do films and television present 'wr'?

<Ben> sorry ... 'war'

<Raine> name one place where they have war now

<Kim> that it is a game

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<A_JamieW> Should the discussion here concentrate on how war can affect the

children and expectations being place upon them?

<answerq> 2

<Ben> Somalia, Croatia

<BobS> answerq? r u Rachel?

<answerq> no I'm Peter

<BobS> ah, ok...*sigh*

<Ben> There are 12 African countires in Civial War at the moment...

<Raine> correct Ben

<answerq> sorry..I'm still trying to understand how to do this

<A_JamieW> Ben, suppose we take Croatia as an example of a warring area...Now

how does that affect the children in terms of child labour?

<Ben> Could you repeat that? We miss the ends of lines!!!!!!!

<A_JamieW> How might the expectations be different from a country at peace and

a country such as Croatia?

<Raine> The children can not go outside to play

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<A_JamieW> The expectations being those of children and child labor.

<Raine> If they dont want to takt the risk to be shot

<Kim> jgjgjjgjgjgjjgjgjgjjg

<Kim> sorry

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<Ben> Transport, Communications and EEducation will be disrupted

<Ben> Not to mention health and family life

<Ben> *stunned silence*

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<Raine> HI J......

<A_JamieW> Sorry, got bumped off...

<Ben> These are Bills suggetsions, I am faridad

<A_JamieW> ?

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<A_JamieW> I think I missed something while out of the chat...

<Ben> J /msg Jamie

<Raine> o

<Raine> oops

<Raine> misstake

<A_JamieW> Have we changed from a discussion of child labor in times of war to

just war?

<Raine> i think so

<Ben> Thousands of children around the world have to fight in wars...

<Kim> where do you live Ben"fariada"

<Ben> is this right? and is this still wrong is they

<Ben> chose to fight?

<Raine> What do you meen

<Ben> Shoulk d cildren be fighting?

<A_Mikael> What does the the convention say about children in armed conflicts?

<Ben> Have a look at Article 38...

<Ben> It says:

<Ben> "No child under 15 should take part  directly in hostlilties or

<Ben> be recruited into armed forces..>"

<Ben> and taht "all children affected by armed conflict benefit from

protection

<Ben> and care"

<Ben> Why do some children have no choice, but to fight?

<Ben> Mikale  el?

<A_Mikael> Ben, sorry, I am back!

<A_Mikael> And so is Kims mother.

<Ben> Oh... do you have any thoughts?

<Raine>  NO

<Raine>  OOOOOPS

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<A_JamieW> Ladies and gentlemen of this discussion, I have found this all to

be very thought-provoking.  However, my family duties call and I must leave

you to your discussion of children and war.

<Bill> Hi everyone Bill here

<Kim> hello bill

<Bill> On the subject of war...

<A_JamieW> I will add that I hope none of you are ever put into a position

where you would be faced with a decision about whether you had to fight or

not...

<Bill> how does 'Hollywood' and television portay..

<Bill> sorry portray the image of war?

<Bill> is war glamorous?

<A_JamieW> Good bye

<A_Mikael> Bye Jamie!

<Bill> bye Jamie

<Kim> bye jamie

<A_JamieW> See all of you later!

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<Raine> hi am back and so is my father

<Bill> Why do some children have to fight in wars?

<Kim> i don't think that war is glamorous

<Kim> because the adults say so

<Bill> so what image does television present war as glamnorous? Sallone

<Bill> sorry....

<Bill> Kim what did you say?

<Bill> what would make you fight?

<Kim> nothing

<Raine> nothing

<Kim> because i'd not figth

<Bill> what if your home and parents were taken away?

<Kim> i don't know what to do

<Bill> everyday many children are fuighting for their lives  =(

<Kim> that's true

<Bill> Unicef helps these children regain their dignity

<Bill> and their lives by providing safe areas.

<Bill> is this a good thing?

<Raine> Unfortionally that is true Bill but i woulden't take a gun in my hand

<Raine> It is just you bill me and kim and a_mikael

<Raine> And our parents (not A_Mikael)

<Raine> A_Mikael's

<Raine> where are you bill

<Bill> I'm here

<Raine> o good

<Bill> do you want to talk more about...

<Raine> KIM IS LEAVING

<Kim> I'm LEAVING

<Raine> I THINK

<Bill> war and refugees? Or sonething eslelse

<Bill> sorry..something else?

<Raine> I don't understand

<Kim> bye

<Bill> would you like to tsa....la...

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<Bill> would you like to talk more about war?

<Raine> yes

<Raine> Bill it is just you and me

<Bill> what effects does war have on the lihje..

<Raine> on what

<Bill> what effect does war have on the lives fo children

<Raine> of

<Raine> the kids grov in violence

<Bill> yes

<Bill> anything else?

<Raine> Feelins are desturbet

<Raine> Feelings

<Bill> what should be provided to help children recoverfrom war?

<Raine>

<Raine> first the wars should end and then they should be raised in peace

<Bill> that's a good view Raine, I agree with you

<Bill> how about refugr..

<Bill> how about refugees? what are they, where are they?

<Bill> how should we help people who are refugees?

<Raine> thinking

<Raine> ???????????+

<Raine> we shuld help them to lern our countries language and help them to get

education and a safe place to live in

<Bill> should we also try and help them...

<Raine>  YES I THINK SO

<Bill> return to their homes hw  when the war or famine has been

<Raine> Yes

<Bill> solved and the situation improved?

<Raine> yes

<Raine>

<Bill> how amny  many people are refugees in rhe world today?

<Raine> do you meen many

<Bill> yes

<Bill> ;-)

<Raine> Many but i don't no exactly tell me if you know

<Bill> around 10 million in the world today!

<Raine> That is alot

<Bill> that's how many of your country?

<Bill> what e  percentage?

<Bill> in UK there are 54 million people so...

<Raine> 200 Percentage

<Bill> that is 5 times the number of people who rare refugees..

<Bill> How many people in your country?

<Raine> 5.000.000

<Bill> so twice the nyumber of people o  in Finland are refugees!

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<Dawn> Hello!

<Raine> Hi einstein

<Dawn> I do not know very much about refugees[sorry]

<Raine> Neither do I

<A_Mikael> I am back! (have been working on another computer)

<A_Mikael> I have been following the discussion with one eye, though...

<A_Mikael> Finland have a very strict refugee policy, it is very difficult to

become a refugee in Finland. How is the situation over there?

<Dawn> Hi Mikael from Bill

<A_Mikael> Hello Bill!-)

<Raine> That is tru Mikael

<Raine> TRU=true

<A_Mikael> Perhaps you Raine have read about the Twana family from Yugoslavia

in the newspaper... could you tell about that?

<Dawn> Country's that exept refugees find it hard to provide facilities and

accomadation

<Raine> the police and the goverment is chasing the half of the twana family

and the other half is in sweden the people in finland are hiding the other

half of the family from the goverment

<A_Mikael> Yes... it is a terrible sitation... the children are separated from

their parents.

<Dawn> In the war in Yugoslvia the British government has only just.....

<Raine> just what

<A_Mikael> I think it is against the convention, what do you think Bill?

<Dawn> allowed injured children to be treated in British hospitals

<Dawn> These children were going to die

<Raine>

<Raine> sorry!!!!!

<Dawn> What happened to the Twana family?

<Raine> it is not solved yet the other half of the family is still hiding

<Raine> in Finland

<A_Mikael> The Twana father is kept in prison in Sweden and they are trying to

force him to sign a paper to get his children sent to Sweden so that the whole

family can be sent back to Yogoslavia. But he is refusing...

<A_Mikael> Many families in Finland are prepared to adopt the children.

<Raine> that is true

<Dawn> Did they travel to Finland from Yugoslavia?

<Raine> yes

<A_Mikael> But the athorities are determined to send to send the back.

<A_Mikael> send them back..

<Raine> ou

<Dawn> Did they v  sneak across to Finland?

<Raine> I am not shure

<Dawn> Do you think that what the government is doing is the right thing to

do?

<Raine>  NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

<Dawn> Thats exactly what i think

<Dawn> Do you know what the rest of Finland think>?

<Raine> I think that the agree wiht us ( exept the goverment

<A_Mikael> The police came in the middle of the night to the family where the

children were hiding and tried to locate the whole family so they could send

them to Sweden. But when they didnt find all family members they decided to

expel those they found.

<Raine> With not wiht

<A_Mikael> So I dont think it was the right thing to do.

<Dawn> What is the public doing about it ?

<Raine> How old are you dawn

<A_Mikael> They have started an action group.

<Raine> I don't no

<Raine> Ops

<Dawn> Or is there nothing anybody cancan do ?

<Dawn> I am 13 years old

<Dawn> How about you?

<Raine> ME TO

<A_Mikael> The minstre of domestic affairs says they have to leave Finland.

Although many other ministres disagree there is nothing they can do. And we

call Finland a democracy =(

<Dawn> Are the....

<Raine> are what

<Dawn> is there anything you can do to help the family?

<A_Mikael> Put some pressure on the authorities... and hope that at least the

children can stay in Finland. Even if that means they will be separated from

the parents.

<Dawn> WE will not be here

<Raine> O that is to bad were are you then

<Dawn> bye

<Raine>  BYE BYE EVERY BODY

<A_Mikael> Yes, bye!

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<Dawn> BYE

<A_Mikael> Thank you for talking with us!

<Dawn> Still THereanyone?

<A_Mikael> Yes... I am here..

<Dawn> We have to go soon

<A_Mikael> Yes, I think we are the only ones left... Raine is leaving now...

<A_Mikael> Who are with you?

<Dawn> We are just disscussing if there are any possibilitys to make the next

link

<Dawn> JUst the club ,Bill ,Bem and Mike

<Dawn> Ben

<A_Mikael> Yes..?

<Dawn> We'll see if we can come but at the moment we think we cannot

<A_Mikael> you mean next week?

<Dawn> Yes

<A_Mikael> What is the topic next week?

<Dawn> Bill will be th

<Dawn> Bill will be on line next week

<Dawn> Topic for next week will be food and nuteition

<A_Mikael> Good! We missed him at the beginning of the meeting... I have never

acted as a chair-person before =)

<Dawn> nutrition

<Dawn> I have never ?

<A_Mikael> It was difficult to focus on the topic and to decide what the

topic..

<A_Mikael> should be.

<A_Mikael> have never acted as a chair-person before =)

<Dawn> sorry Mikael that I wasn't there (Billl) but we had some problems....

<Dawn> with connections. You did great!  ;-)

<A_Mikael> Thank you!-)

<A_Mikael> How much do you discuss the topic before the irc-meeting?

<Dawn> We have a lot to discus

<Dawn> Bill sends us a lot of info.!

<A_Mikael> I see. My dilemma here in Finland is that I dont see the kids

until..

<Dawn> We have to try and get through it in time!!!!

<A_Mikael> hour before the meeting and I dont even know if they will come.

<Dawn> But we do

<A_Mikael> Yes, thank you for the info Bill! Dont know what we would do

without..

<A_Mikael> you!

<Dawn> We are just disscusing how you can get info earlier

<Dawn> Its hard to solve

<Dawn> HHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

<A_Mikael> Do you think it would be possible to have an IRC agenda?

<A_Mikael> Today we had problems where to start. The topic was so HUGE.

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<Bill> yep...there were many different topics...

<Bill> I'm trying to think how irc can fit into the KIDPROJ topics

<Bill> thinking....

<Bill> stilll thinking...

<Bill> you are in a difficult position not having access to the kids during...

<Bill> the week.

<Bill> perhaps it would be possible to delay irc so that our discussions

are...

<Bill> a week behind the KIDPROJ agenda....

<Bill> in other words....

<Bill> the topic for next week's KIDPROJ is 'Food and Water...

<Bill> sorry... not food and water but food and nutrition..

<Bill> if we dl

<Bill> if wee

<Bill> sorry we don;t have a delete facility  ;-)

<Bill> if we do not have an irc discussion next week....

<Bill> but your kids can look at the KIDPROJ info on Food etc. they can then

<Bill> spend the following weke preaparing for the irc in 2 weeks time!!!!

<Bill> am I making sense?

<A_Mikael> Yes you are! But I dont know if that long a delay is necessary... I

..

<A_Mikael> was thinking that I good give an "home assignment" in the beginning

of...

<Bill> our ..

<Bill> that sounds the kind of thing!

<A_Mikael> the week (Monday or Tuesday) to the kids that are interested to

come..

<A_Mikael> and then they could discuss and write to KIDPROJ on Saturday

before..

<Bill> would you post info to them?

<A_Mikael> the meeting. That way they would really have thought about the

subject..

<A_Mikael> and feel that they take part on equal bases.

<Bill> or could the school get the 'lesson plans' to them?

<A_Mikael> I can inform the whole school at the "morning assembly" Monday

morning..

<Bill> heh...now that would be brilliant!

<A_Mikael> I have been thinking about doing that... (so far I have only

informed..

<A_Mikael> the seventh graders).

<Bill> what about other staff?

<A_Mikael> You mean teachers?

<Bill> yes

<A_Mikael> Hmm, that *is* a problem. I have talked to the principal but he

said..

<Bill> could you tell them in staff meetings to inform their classes on Monday

morning?

<A_Mikael> that it is not possible to get teachers here because they would

have

<A_Mikael> to be paid =(

<Bill> =( !!!!!!!!!!

<A_Mikael> The attitude seems to be that you dont do anything extra without

getting...

<A_Mikael> paid =(

<Bill> what a bunch of capitalists!!!!!

<A_Mikael> But I think that there are interested teachers that would come!

<Bill> offer them some wine or beer!!  ;-)

<A_Mikael> =)

<A_Mikael> The time is also a problem...

<Bill> they could join us for pizza  <g>

<A_Mikael> Most teachers spend there Saturday evenings with the family and

cannot..

<A_Mikael> come.

<Bill> yes time is the main problem here as well...

<Bill> we are asking kids to spend their Saturady ecenings hunched over

computers!!

<A_Mikael> =) Yes, I must be crazy too. Think what I could be doing on a

<A_Mikael> Saturday night, young, single and free =)

<Bill> not the most ideal way of spening a Saturday evening!!!   (Me also)

<A_Mikael> There are worse ways to spend an evening =) And since I only

make...

<Bill> but then again  - the rewards are worth it )I hope!

<A_Mikael> around 2 pounds per day this is the best alternative.

<Bill> Mikael....would you write shorter phrases.. our computer can't cope

with long lines

<A_Mikael> Sorry... what is the limit?

<Bill> about this long--------------------------------end

<A_Mikael> ok.

<Bill> thanks <g>

<A_Mikael> i was only saying that since I make 2 pounds per day...

<A_Mikael> this is the best alternative on a Saturday evening =)

<Bill> you are a being expolited....

<Bill> exploited - I wu  will come and defend your rights!!!! ;-)

<A_Mikael> Well, in a way... but I have learnt that I have to say

<A_Mikael> NO to certain things.

<Bill> too right   comrade!!  <g>

<A_Mikael> I am a person that have extrem difficulties saying NO =)

<A_Mikael> Thank you =)

<Bill> what is finnish for no?

<A_Mikael> Ei

<Bill> that sounds like scottish for yes!!!!

<A_Mikael> Nej in Swedish (Swedish is my mother tongue, I am not so

<A_Mikael> good at Finnish).

<A_Mikael> =)

<Bill> are you sure your employers aren't scottish!!!

<Bill> plus scottish people hacve DEEEEEEEEEP pockets....

<Bill> if you know what I mean!

<A_Mikael> Finnish is a very diffucult language to learn if you

<Bill> who y told you 'ei' means no?

<A_Mikael> speak Swedish... (yes I know what you mean =) )

<Bill> are you sure it means no noit yes!!

<A_Mikael> I have studies Finnish for, lets see, hmm, 10 years

<A_Mikael> at school but still doesnt know the language.

<A_Mikael> Or perhaps I just learn slowly...=)

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<Bill> ei you learn quickly

<Bill> =)

<Matt> hello?

<A_Mikael> Hello Matt

<Matt> hi

<Bill> hi matt

<A_Mikael> Where are you?

<Matt> what do you mean where am i?

<A_Mikael> Country, city...

<Matt> washington, dc

<A_Mikael> ok.

<Matt> where are you from?

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<Ben> hi Matt!

<Ben> It's Ben!

<Matt> hi!

<A_Mikael> Matt, I am from Vaasa, Finland.

<Matt> why are you here ben? and why were you bill at first?

<Ben> Have you sent the photos yet? :->

<Matt> :) not yet ... sorry.. I will try....

<Ben> Because I am down in London with Mike Burleigh, and Bill

<Ben> is here with me

<Matt> So we meet.. this is cool!

<Ben> Unfortuantly we are just about to leave! :-<

<Matt> it must be 9:23 or so now isnt it?

<Matt> over there?

<Ben> Close (;25

<Ben> 9:25, that it!

<Matt> ok...

<Matt> well, thi great.. maybe we can get on another time and talk longer

<Ben> I'm going to send some things over to you next eeek \9

<Matt> thanks!

<Ben> next week.. that is!

<Matt> i will try to send to you also..

<Ben> I\m getting some photos developed now

<Matt> good....

<Matt> have you ever read "The Ox-Bow Incident"?

<Matt> by any chance?:)

<Ben> No, what is it about?

<Matt> I amdoing a book report on it.. its about mobs... how they form.. what

they can do..

<Matt> mob psychology (sp?)

<Ben> oh! Well, good luck!

<Matt> i will write to you in email today ben...

<Ben> Ok, We'd better be leaving...

<Matt> bye!

<Ben> Cool... I\ll be back in Cambridge tomorrow!

<Ben> Bye!

<Matt> where are you now?

<Matt> bye!

*** Ben is now known as Bill

<Bill> Mikael..

<A_Mikael> Yes..

<Bill> Mike and myself and Ben have to go now....

<Matt> bye!

<Bill> but I wuilll send out the info on Food etc. tomorrow on KIDPROJ

<A_Mikael> Ok. As soon as I get your lesson plan I will talk at the morning

assembly..

<A_Mikael> Hopyfully more kids will come next time.

<Bill> brilliant! thanks for your help this evening now go out and PARTY

(young free and single person that you are!!!!)  =)

<A_Mikael> =)

<A_Mikael> Thank you for everything Bill! Bye Mike, Ben, Dawn and the rest!

<Bill> Bye!

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